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> <channel><title>Comments on: Why the Gas Tax Should Be RAISED</title> <atom:link href="http://www.davidmakescents.com/why-the-gas-tax-should-be-raised/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.davidmakescents.com/why-the-gas-tax-should-be-raised/</link> <description>How this college student is making his way to riches!</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:55:28 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: David</title><link>http://www.davidmakescents.com/why-the-gas-tax-should-be-raised/#comment-149</link> <dc:creator>David</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:48:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.davidmakescents.com/why-the-gas-tax-should-be-raised/#comment-149</guid> <description>Curtis thanks for your comment, but I would have to disagree with some of you thoughts.
1) Yes , maybe the politicians wouldn&#039;t give the rebates to lower income people, but thats how I would set up the law. If the politicians decided to do something else, well then, thats not my plan and there is nothing I could do about it.
2) There is no saying that the government only has to give the rebates weekly. They could give every1 a gas card (or debit card) that they put money on every week or so. That way the poor don&#039;t have to eat it. Since all the money goes back to the poor and middle class, it isn&#039;t possible for the poor to suffer(as they are getting back all the money). The rich probably don&#039;t suffer b/c they are rich but they are paying for it.
3) Your way doesn&#039;t work. Well not fast enough. You said eliminate the tax on &quot;preferred methods&quot;. Well news flash, they are GIVING money to people who make these products and technology to make it more competitive but it still IS NOT! Eventually prices will go down on these new technologies but I feel it is happening too slow.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curtis thanks for your comment, but I would have to disagree with some of you thoughts.</p><p>1) Yes , maybe the politicians wouldn&#8217;t give the rebates to lower income people, but thats how I would set up the law. If the politicians decided to do something else, well then, thats not my plan and there is nothing I could do about it.</p><p>2) There is no saying that the government only has to give the rebates weekly. They could give every1 a gas card (or debit card) that they put money on every week or so. That way the poor don&#8217;t have to eat it. Since all the money goes back to the poor and middle class, it isn&#8217;t possible for the poor to suffer(as they are getting back all the money). The rich probably don&#8217;t suffer b/c they are rich but they are paying for it.</p><p>3) Your way doesn&#8217;t work. Well not fast enough. You said eliminate the tax on &#8220;preferred methods&#8221;. Well news flash, they are GIVING money to people who make these products and technology to make it more competitive but it still IS NOT! Eventually prices will go down on these new technologies but I feel it is happening too slow.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Curtis</title><link>http://www.davidmakescents.com/why-the-gas-tax-should-be-raised/#comment-147</link> <dc:creator>Curtis</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:08:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.davidmakescents.com/why-the-gas-tax-should-be-raised/#comment-147</guid> <description>Even ignoring the completely asinine premise that increasing taxes on gas in the U.S. would decrease demand significantly on a global scale as countries like China and India continue to increase consumption, there&#039;s no reason to believe that politicians who raise gas taxes would turn around and give it to the poor as a &quot;rebate.&quot; More likely, they will use it to show that they &quot;balanced&quot; the budget, or they&#039;ll just spend it on pet projects like they do now.
Also, the claim that only rich people will suffer (or that they will suffer the most) is ridiculous. Lower and middle-class people will suffer more, since they will have to turn higher-paying jobs that are a little further away because the higher price of gas will make it not worthwhile. Even if they do get &quot;rebates,&quot; lower and middle class people will have to eat the higher cost until they get their checks, which is likely to mean they&#039;ll have to use credit cards or other unsavory means, garnering interest.
The best way to solve the crisis is to lower taxes on gas to help people immediately, and then eliminate taxes on ALL forms of alternative energy research and development (not just the &quot;preferred&quot; methods like ethanol) so that entrepreneurs can innovate without hassle.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even ignoring the completely asinine premise that increasing taxes on gas in the U.S. would decrease demand significantly on a global scale as countries like China and India continue to increase consumption, there&#8217;s no reason to believe that politicians who raise gas taxes would turn around and give it to the poor as a &#8220;rebate.&#8221; More likely, they will use it to show that they &#8220;balanced&#8221; the budget, or they&#8217;ll just spend it on pet projects like they do now.</p><p>Also, the claim that only rich people will suffer (or that they will suffer the most) is ridiculous. Lower and middle-class people will suffer more, since they will have to turn higher-paying jobs that are a little further away because the higher price of gas will make it not worthwhile. Even if they do get &#8220;rebates,&#8221; lower and middle class people will have to eat the higher cost until they get their checks, which is likely to mean they&#8217;ll have to use credit cards or other unsavory means, garnering interest.</p><p>The best way to solve the crisis is to lower taxes on gas to help people immediately, and then eliminate taxes on ALL forms of alternative energy research and development (not just the &#8220;preferred&#8221; methods like ethanol) so that entrepreneurs can innovate without hassle.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: hank</title><link>http://www.davidmakescents.com/why-the-gas-tax-should-be-raised/#comment-141</link> <dc:creator>hank</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:08:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.davidmakescents.com/why-the-gas-tax-should-be-raised/#comment-141</guid> <description>Innovation drives invention; you&#039;re certainly thinking on the right path with this one and I agree that something needs to be done.  I&#039;d think that they government would see the same thing.  I&#039;m no political professional by ANY stretch of the imagination, but I DO read that Bush and Halliburton are fairly good buddies.  Gas prices are a big thing on everyones mind and the Democrats are certainly banking on those as pros for their side in the election.  Hopefully they&#039;ll be able to do something with it come game time...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Innovation drives invention; you&#8217;re certainly thinking on the right path with this one and I agree that something needs to be done.  I&#8217;d think that they government would see the same thing.  I&#8217;m no political professional by ANY stretch of the imagination, but I DO read that Bush and Halliburton are fairly good buddies.  Gas prices are a big thing on everyones mind and the Democrats are certainly banking on those as pros for their side in the election.  Hopefully they&#8217;ll be able to do something with it come game time&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The 14th Money Hacks Carnival - Weird Golf Facts Edition &#124; Prime Time Money</title><link>http://www.davidmakescents.com/why-the-gas-tax-should-be-raised/#comment-118</link> <dc:creator>The 14th Money Hacks Carnival - Weird Golf Facts Edition &#124; Prime Time Money</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 11:49:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.davidmakescents.com/why-the-gas-tax-should-be-raised/#comment-118</guid> <description>[...] Carter presents Why the Gas Tax Should Be RAISED posted at David Makes Cents.com, saying, that this post &#8220;Goes over the positive effects [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Carter presents Why the Gas Tax Should Be RAISED posted at David Makes Cents.com, saying, that this post &#8220;Goes over the positive effects [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: David</title><link>http://www.davidmakescents.com/why-the-gas-tax-should-be-raised/#comment-113</link> <dc:creator>David</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 20:16:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.davidmakescents.com/why-the-gas-tax-should-be-raised/#comment-113</guid> <description>Praveen, thank you for your comment but I have to disagree with what you said. You kind of just state things that you think are true but don&#039;t back them up. The goal was to reduce dependency on foreign oil. Giving people more money in the form of regular deductions will not do this. Charging more on gas will cause people to change their habits as we have seen this already by the price of oil going up on its own. I know my idea isn&#039;t perfect and there are flaws in them, but you didn&#039;t seem to be able to pick any of them out.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Praveen, thank you for your comment but I have to disagree with what you said. You kind of just state things that you think are true but don&#8217;t back them up. The goal was to reduce dependency on foreign oil. Giving people more money in the form of regular deductions will not do this. Charging more on gas will cause people to change their habits as we have seen this already by the price of oil going up on its own. I know my idea isn&#8217;t perfect and there are flaws in them, but you didn&#8217;t seem to be able to pick any of them out.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Praveen</title><link>http://www.davidmakescents.com/why-the-gas-tax-should-be-raised/#comment-112</link> <dc:creator>Praveen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:53:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.davidmakescents.com/why-the-gas-tax-should-be-raised/#comment-112</guid> <description>There is no need to raise the gas tax.  People will respond on their own to supply and demand.
Taxes and government intervention are inferior to supply/demand.
I read somewhere that it takes about 2 years for changed consumer behavior to influence the price of a barrel of oil, so we won&#039;t know how people react to $4/gallon gas until then.
If they did raise the gas tax, the rebate is a bad idea.
A gas tax affects lower income people more than wealthier people, so  they should make it revenue neutral by cutting other taxes that also hurt lower income people more (such as sales taxes).
In the case of the federal government, there is no sales tax, but they could increase the standard deduction and child credits - since these affect lower income people more.
Also, local governments will then have to allow cab drivers to raise their rates - or charge a fuel surcharge when gas is above a certain price.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no need to raise the gas tax.  People will respond on their own to supply and demand.</p><p>Taxes and government intervention are inferior to supply/demand.</p><p>I read somewhere that it takes about 2 years for changed consumer behavior to influence the price of a barrel of oil, so we won&#8217;t know how people react to $4/gallon gas until then.</p><p>If they did raise the gas tax, the rebate is a bad idea.</p><p>A gas tax affects lower income people more than wealthier people, so  they should make it revenue neutral by cutting other taxes that also hurt lower income people more (such as sales taxes).</p><p>In the case of the federal government, there is no sales tax, but they could increase the standard deduction and child credits &#8211; since these affect lower income people more.</p><p>Also, local governments will then have to allow cab drivers to raise their rates &#8211; or charge a fuel surcharge when gas is above a certain price.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tony Tovar</title><link>http://www.davidmakescents.com/why-the-gas-tax-should-be-raised/#comment-102</link> <dc:creator>Tony Tovar</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:54:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.davidmakescents.com/why-the-gas-tax-should-be-raised/#comment-102</guid> <description>Man, this is crazy! Oil Supply problem!
This is nut! The price of crude up 39 percent this year. This is the biggest volatility I&#039;ve seen. A lot of people don&#039;t have the right picture. This is driven by demand globally. although there is a lowered demand in the US. There are other places in the the East. This Earthquake is demanding a ton of oil. Increasing Deman even more in a very tight market! Geopolitical have cut down OPIC and non OPIC producation. We are seeing Demand exceeding Supply, that is going to get wider and wider. Its that simple. We have seen prices to the perception of what will continue to happen. The perception that the world will have a supply problem with oil.
The days of cheap oil are over! Seeing 150 a barrell is completely possible in my mind. Three billion consumer are in the market place competing for oil. The US not the engine that we see has driven demand. If US slows down, other countries seem to take up the slack!
Respectfully,
Tony Tovar</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, this is crazy! Oil Supply problem!</p><p>This is nut! The price of crude up 39 percent this year. This is the biggest volatility I&#8217;ve seen. A lot of people don&#8217;t have the right picture. This is driven by demand globally. although there is a lowered demand in the US. There are other places in the the East. This Earthquake is demanding a ton of oil. Increasing Deman even more in a very tight market! Geopolitical have cut down OPIC and non OPIC producation. We are seeing Demand exceeding Supply, that is going to get wider and wider. Its that simple. We have seen prices to the perception of what will continue to happen. The perception that the world will have a supply problem with oil.</p><p>The days of cheap oil are over! Seeing 150 a barrell is completely possible in my mind. Three billion consumer are in the market place competing for oil. The US not the engine that we see has driven demand. If US slows down, other countries seem to take up the slack!</p><p>Respectfully,<br
/> Tony Tovar</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tony Tovar</title><link>http://www.davidmakescents.com/why-the-gas-tax-should-be-raised/#comment-101</link> <dc:creator>Tony Tovar</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 21:58:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.davidmakescents.com/why-the-gas-tax-should-be-raised/#comment-101</guid> <description>Sorry forgot one thing, We the people are a small part but yet we are everything aren&#039;t we? :D</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry forgot one thing, We the people are a small part but yet we are everything aren&#8217;t we? <img
src='http://www.davidmakescents.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tony Tovar</title><link>http://www.davidmakescents.com/why-the-gas-tax-should-be-raised/#comment-100</link> <dc:creator>Tony Tovar</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 21:54:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.davidmakescents.com/why-the-gas-tax-should-be-raised/#comment-100</guid> <description>When I meant halt the Production I meant reduce Aggregate Output/Income (over all gross domestic product -- production). Meaning if you have a price Rise it is technically a price shock, As you might have known, over the last few years the price has definitely gone up. Has consumption? No has the rise in purchases of hybrid vehicles? Of course! If you haven&#039;t noticed, there have been layoffs in both the Oil and Automobile industry, the biggest in the near past was Cyrslar!
But lets not blaim the price shock, blame the dollar inflation. If Government should be doing anything is to try and stop diluting the dollar! The Fed started off bad by trying to help with the &quot;recession.&quot; They should have left it like it was. Americans need a good spankin from their poor spending/expenditure habits! I know if anyone, you could agree to this...That America has become a nation of cosumers and also the leading nation in consumerism!
The assuming that rebates to the public would halt production makes sense and that is where your Classic Thoery thought comes into affect. You assume that people will expacte prices to go up and hence buy fuel efficient cars to meet the hikes. People are doing that now and I belive that what you say is partially true. Not everyone in the economy will then buy a fuel efficiet car. You can see this in the break up of CPI. The Biggest expenses in a house are First (Housing), Secondly (Food and Beverages) and thirdly (Transportation).
Now if you think people are looking to save the rebates, then you are mistaken. The current Savings rate in America for the last few years has been, guess.... A BIG FAT ZERO Percent.
Keynsian thought would suggest that Giving money to the people will do what?
Push out Demand, raise prices and cause inflation.
The Fed lowering the rate and the Gov sending out the stimulus pack has caused exactly this. They have saved us from Recession, i think, but at a cost of inflation.
I wasn&#039;t disagreeing with you, but a lot more has to happen the a raise in gas tax and hence gas prices to get the results you are looking for ultimately. Reducation in Demand for Gas is unlikely as you mentioned in your comment reply, Things still have to be shipped, people still have to drive, but we the people are but a small part of the economy, especially when it comes to oil.
:D I think i wrote a lot more again ... sorry.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I meant halt the Production I meant reduce Aggregate Output/Income (over all gross domestic product &#8212; production). Meaning if you have a price Rise it is technically a price shock, As you might have known, over the last few years the price has definitely gone up. Has consumption? No has the rise in purchases of hybrid vehicles? Of course! If you haven&#8217;t noticed, there have been layoffs in both the Oil and Automobile industry, the biggest in the near past was Cyrslar!</p><p>But lets not blaim the price shock, blame the dollar inflation. If Government should be doing anything is to try and stop diluting the dollar! The Fed started off bad by trying to help with the &#8220;recession.&#8221; They should have left it like it was. Americans need a good spankin from their poor spending/expenditure habits! I know if anyone, you could agree to this&#8230;That America has become a nation of cosumers and also the leading nation in consumerism!</p><p>The assuming that rebates to the public would halt production makes sense and that is where your Classic Thoery thought comes into affect. You assume that people will expacte prices to go up and hence buy fuel efficient cars to meet the hikes. People are doing that now and I belive that what you say is partially true. Not everyone in the economy will then buy a fuel efficiet car. You can see this in the break up of CPI. The Biggest expenses in a house are First (Housing), Secondly (Food and Beverages) and thirdly (Transportation).</p><p>Now if you think people are looking to save the rebates, then you are mistaken. The current Savings rate in America for the last few years has been, guess&#8230;. A BIG FAT ZERO Percent.</p><p>Keynsian thought would suggest that Giving money to the people will do what?<br
/> Push out Demand, raise prices and cause inflation.</p><p>The Fed lowering the rate and the Gov sending out the stimulus pack has caused exactly this. They have saved us from Recession, i think, but at a cost of inflation.</p><p>I wasn&#8217;t disagreeing with you, but a lot more has to happen the a raise in gas tax and hence gas prices to get the results you are looking for ultimately. Reducation in Demand for Gas is unlikely as you mentioned in your comment reply, Things still have to be shipped, people still have to drive, but we the people are but a small part of the economy, especially when it comes to oil.</p><p> <img
src='http://www.davidmakescents.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> I think i wrote a lot more again &#8230; sorry.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tight Fisted Miser</title><link>http://www.davidmakescents.com/why-the-gas-tax-should-be-raised/#comment-99</link> <dc:creator>Tight Fisted Miser</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 20:58:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.davidmakescents.com/why-the-gas-tax-should-be-raised/#comment-99</guid> <description>It looks like we have one more thing in common.  I wrote a post called &quot;Increase the Gas Tax&quot; last month.  You did a much better job at articulating why it should be increased though.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like we have one more thing in common.  I wrote a post called &#8220;Increase the Gas Tax&#8221; last month.  You did a much better job at articulating why it should be increased though.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
